Everything you need to run the Stand Up Recruitment sales system — from lead generation to the Closer Script, objection handling, and team training.
Everything you need to know before making a single call: what we believe, how the pipeline works, and how the day is structured.
This isn't just a sales playbook — it's your battlefield guide. Everything you need to open doors, earn trust fast, and close with conviction is right here. From cold outreach to consult calls to locking in clients, every move is mapped with purpose. No fluff, no guesswork — just straight systems built to drive results.
At Stand Up, sales isn't about pushing roles. It's about solving real staffing pain for clients who are bleeding time, money, and manpower. This playbook gives you the frameworks, the mindset, and the tools to lead with confidence and close with clarity.
If you're in the seat, own it. Run the system. Keep the standard high — and let your numbers do the talking.
Every Stage 2 call runs on the CLOSER framework. Six steps, in order — do not skip one because the call feels like it is going well.
Stand Up Recruitment runs a 3-stage client acquisition pipeline. Every lead moves through the same structure -- no shortcuts, no skipped stages.
| Stage | Name | Owner | Goal |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Lead Generation | Marketing | Meta ads generate inbound leads; the client self-books their first meeting straight into the sales calendar |
| 2 | Presentation & Offer (Closer Script) | Salesperson | Run the full 8-stage Closer Script on the Teams call, present the offer, and get a verbal yes |
| 3 | Submit the Client TOB and JD | Salesperson | Submit the Airtable form with the correct TOB type -- this triggers the client's TOB and job description links |
Meta ads generate the lead, our automation books the client straight into the sales calendar -- no cold calling, no manual list-building.
To generate qualified inbound leads through Meta ads and get the client booked directly into the sales team's calendar for their first meeting -- with no cold calling or manual list-building required.
A prospective client sees one of our Meta ads and clicks through. Our automation gives them direct access to the sales team's calendar, and they pick a time that works for them for their first meeting. Once booked, the meeting is confirmed on Microsoft Teams and the salesperson runs it from there at Stage 2.
Run this script live on every Closer Call. Every conversation follows the same eight stages -- skipping a stage weakens the close.
To present our placement offer using the CLOSER framework — not to convince, but to show how our system solves their exact problem and let the offer close itself.
Script:
“Pretty easy today, I just gotta see what's happening over there and see if we can actually help.”
“If we can help I'll walk you through what we do and if I can't I'll tell you straight away — all good?”
Open Strong:
“What’s making you look into getting [trade] from New Zealand and not Australia?”
“How long have you been struggling to find good [trade]?”
“What have you already tried to fill these roles?”
“Why do you think that didn’t work?”
“How is not having these [trade] affecting your business?”
(If at any point their answers are too shallow — anywhere in this section — rotate between:) “Can you tell me more about that?” / “Can you give me an example of that?”
“What would having your team fully staffed with [trade] let you do that you can't do right now?”
“How quickly do you want to get these roles filled, is this priority?”
Script:
“It sounds like you've got the same problem as most [trade] businesses right now — you've got all the work and no workers.”
“You've been trying to sort this for [time period]. You've tried [what they said], and every time it's [why it failed, their words].”
“And because of that, [pain consequence, their words].”
“And if that keeps going, it's not getting any easier.”
“That about right?”
Script:
“Cool, look, that's exactly what we solve.”
Script:
“So what makes us different than everything you've already tried? We open up a whole new country of talent — because you already know you can't find these guys locally. You've already tried, right?” (Rhetorical — no pause, keep moving regardless of response.)
“When we solve the staff issue, what would actually change for you?” (Let them answer, in their own words — reflect back whatever they actually say, don't supply a generic outcome. Pause — genuine space here, let it land.)
“When we fix those things, your business stops leaving money on the table.” (Pause)
“We currently have [trade] ready to go, who are qualified and not being fought over by every other business around you. But most importantly, they've made a decision to uproot their whole lives — moving their families to Australia — which means they show up with a different mindset. They want to join a company long term. They want to be looked after, paid on time, and just show up and do a hard day's work and go home. That's all they're after.”
“How does that sound to you?” (Wait for a real answer — this is a genuine question, not rhetorical.)
“From here the process is simple.”
“So that's how it works, easy and straightforward” (pause half a beat, just so they take it in.. then go straight into next line) And here's how we protect you.
“If the hire doesn't work out for any reason — he doesn't have the skills or he just doesn't fit in with the team — we'll replace them. No drama and no extra cost to you.”
“Now we've got that in place for four months, but I can guarantee you it's not going to take you four months to figure out if someone is a good fit, right?”
“That all clear?”
“Most of our clients offer the candidate some sort of temporary accommodation — whether that’s four weeks in an Airbnb, or something like Flatmates.com. Is that something you’re open to for the right candidate?” (Wait for response.)
“Okay, cool, no worries.”
Script:
“In terms of investment its $17K,
We split this into two payments — one payment made on a signed employment contract and the second a week after they start.”
“Does that payment structure work for you”
“Is there anything stopping us from getting started today?”
“Cool, we're ready to get started then.”
Script:
“Look, the next step is simple. I'm gonna send you over an email straight after this call. In that email there's two things I need returned before we can get started:”
“As soon as I get those back from you, we can get started.” (wait for the response)
“Awesome — when do you think I would have that signed copy back?”
“Great — I’ll get that email over to you now. Looking forward to getting you sorted with these [trade] and helping the business grow.”
Purpose: generate additional opportunities from every sales conversation.
Script:
“Hey, just one quick question before you go. Who else do you know who's dealing with the same staffing issues that I may be able to help?” (Pause) (If they mention someone) “Perfect. Are you OK introducing us through email?”
Standup Recruitment — Internal Training Document
This document is your training guide for every client call. It explains not just what to say, but why you say it and what you are trying to achieve at each stage.
Read it carefully. Study it. The goal is not to memorise lines robotically — it is to understand the purpose behind each stage so deeply that the conversation feels natural.
The call script is the skeleton. This document is everything underneath it.
THE RULE Deliver this calmly and casually. Do not sound rehearsed. Wait for the client to agree before moving on.
Why This Stage Matters
The moment a business owner picks up the phone from a salesperson, their guard goes up. They are expecting to be pitched, pressured, or sold something they do not need.
Your first job is to disarm that resistance before it builds.
By telling the client upfront that this is a simple fact-finding conversation — and that you will tell them straight away if you cannot help — you immediately separate yourself from every other salesperson they have dealt with. This openness builds trust before the conversation has even started.
The “All good?” at the end is not a throwaway line. It is the first small agreement of the call. When the client says yes, they have mentally committed to having an honest conversation with you. That small yes matters — it shifts them from guarded to open. Do not rush past it.
The Script
THE RULE Do not move on until you clearly understand the problem, how long it has been going on, what they have already tried, and what it is costing the business.
Why This Stage Matters
This is the most important stage of the entire call. Everything that comes after it depends on what you uncover here.
You are not just asking questions to fill in a form. You are helping the business owner clearly see and articulate the real cost of their staffing problem — many of them have never sat down and actually worked it out.
There are four things you must uncover before moving on:
Do not rush from impact to money. The most common mistake at this stage is asking the financial question too early. Before you put a number on the problem, the client needs to fully feel the impact of it. Let them talk. Ask follow-up questions. The more they open up about how it is affecting the business, the more the financial cost becomes obvious — often without you needing to ask directly.
Why does the financial cost matter so much? Because without a clear number, the client has no real urgency to act. When they say the role costs them $4,000 a week and it has been empty for three months, they have just told themselves they have lost $48,000. You did not tell them that — they worked it out themselves. That is far more powerful than any pitch you could make.
Most clients will not hand you a dollar figure straight away when you ask how the problem is affecting the business. They will say things like “it's pushing out our lead times” or “we can't get jobs finished quick enough.” That is money — it is just not phrased as money. Slower job completion means slower invoicing, which means slower cash in the door. If the client does not connect that dot themselves, you connect it for them, out loud, before moving on. This is also where you get the number you will use later — if they push back on price in Section 7, this is your anchor: “compared to how much you're losing a week.”
Branching Into the Financial
After they answer “how is this affecting your business,” your job is to find the money hiding inside whatever they said — because almost nobody answers that question with a dollar figure straight away. They'll give you an operational answer or a people answer. Either one has money underneath it. You just have to say the money part out loud.
There are two directions this usually goes. If they talk about output — missed deadlines, slower jobs, turning down work — the chain is the same every time: less output leads to slower invoicing leads to less cash in the door. Say that chain back to them directly: “So if jobs are taking longer, that's slower invoicing — less cash coming in each week this stays unfilled. Fair?”
If they talk about people instead — the crew's stretched, someone's close to quitting — that isn't a direct money chain, it's a risk. The follow-up here isn't “what is this costing you,” it's “what would it cost you if this got worse”: “What would it cost you to replace one of them if they walked?”
The skill isn't memorising every possible answer a client might give — it's recognising which bucket their answer falls into (a cost already happening, or a risk that could turn into one) and asking the version of the follow-up that fits. If you can't tell which bucket it's in, ask “can you tell me more about that?” first. Either way, you're aiming for a number by the end of this exchange — you'll hand it back to them in Section 3, and use it as your anchor if they push back on price in Section 7.
This stage also gives you the exact words you will use in Section 5. When a client says “my guys are exhausted and we're turning down work” — write that down. You will use those exact words later.
The line — “What would having your team fully staffed with [trade] let you do that you can't do right now?” — gets a concrete, forward-looking answer without you needing to explain how the hiring process works. Most clients start here with something operational: “take on more jobs,” “stop turning down work,” “hit our deadlines.” Write down whatever they give you, word for word — it's the raw material Section 5 will use, even though Section 5 now asks its own live version of this question rather than reciting this answer back verbatim.
New addition: “Why do you think that didn't work?” This is the question that turns Section 2 into a real Overview, not just a Clarify. Most reps stop at “what have you tried” and move on — but the failure reason is where the actual pain lives. A client who says “the agency just dumped a pile of random CVs on us and wasted three weeks” has handed you a far heavier line for Section 3 than “tried an agency, didn't work.” If the first answer is thin, this is exactly where you oscillate — “can you tell me more about that?” / “can you give me an example of that?” — until you've got something specific enough to hand back to them later.
Do not rush. Let the client talk. The more they share, the more invested they become in solving the problem.
The opening question changed to “What's making you look into getting [trade] from New Zealand and not Australia?” This gets straight to their motivation in their own words — they'll usually tell you the pain unprompted (“we've got work coming up and can't find them locally”), which sets up everything that follows. “How long have you been struggling” now comes second, once they've told you what's going on — you still need that duration for Section 3.
The “Can you give me an example of that?” / “Can you tell me more about that?” pair is your one dig-deeper tool for the whole of discovery — not tied to any single question. If a client glances over any question in this section and gives you a shallow, one-word, or vague answer, drop in either line to pull more out of them. It's written into the script once, below, but it applies everywhere in Section 2 — keep it in mind on every question, not just the one it's printed under. Don't stop at one — oscillate between the two across the same exchange. A vague answer gets “can you tell me more about that?”, which usually opens the door to something more specific; that specific mention gets “can you give me an example of that?”, which is where the real detail comes out — a dollar figure, a named incident, a client they lost. Each question builds on what the last one uncovered. Keep alternating until you've got something concrete enough to use later, not just the first thing they say.
The Script
If at any point their answers are too shallow — anywhere in this section, on any question — rotate between:
“Can you tell me more about that?” / “Can you give me an example of that?”
When the Prospect Goes Quiet or Vague
Not every client will give you clear, detailed answers in discovery. Some will be guarded. Some will give you one-word answers. Some will say “yeah it's been a bit tricky” and stop there.
When that happens, do not panic and do not move on. Use these approaches:
If they give a vague answer: Reflect it back and ask one more question.
“When you say tricky — what does that look like day to day?”
If they go quiet: Normalise it and prompt gently.
“Take your time — I just want to make sure I actually understand what's going on before I say anything.”
If they seem reluctant to share financial impact: Make it easier by starting small.
“Rough ballpark is fine — just so I've got a sense of the scale of it.”
If they seem disengaged or short: Check in directly.
“Can I ask — is this something you're actually looking to solve right now, or is the timing not right?”
That last one feels bold but it works. It shows confidence and forces a real answer. A disengaged prospect who stays disengaged is not worth finishing the call with. Better to know early.
The rule: never move out of Section 2 with incomplete information. A weak discovery produces a weak close every time.
THE RULE The client must confirm your summary before you move into the solution. Do not move forward without that agreement.
Why This Stage Matters
At this point the client has shared a lot of information. Your job now is to show them that you were actually listening — and to organise everything they said into a clear, single picture of the problem.
This does two things.
First, it builds trust. When you repeat back exactly what someone told you, in their own words, they feel genuinely heard. This is rare in sales conversations and it makes a real difference.
Second, it reinforces the pain. When you say out loud “you've been trying for six months, everything you've tried hasn't worked, and it's costing you $4,000 a week” — the client hears it differently than when they were just answering questions. It lands as a single, heavy problem rather than a series of separate answers. That weight is what creates urgency.
Open with a normalising line, not a diagnosis. “It sounds like you've got the same problem as most [trade] businesses right now — you've got all the work and no workers” does two things a clinical opener doesn't: it names the problem in a way that's sharp and memorable, and it tells the client they're not alone, which lowers their guard before you get specific with what they actually told you.
The “what they tried” line now carries the why as well, since Section 2 gets you that answer directly: “you've tried [what they said], and every time it's [why it failed, their words].” That's a heavier line than stating what they tried alone — it shows you understood not just that it failed, but why.
Keep the escalation soft, not dramatic. A line like “and if that keeps going, it's not getting any easier” future-paces the pain without inventing a worst-case scenario the client didn't give you — a heavier, manufactured escalation reads as salesy and works against the trust this whole stage is built to create. If it still feels forced, it's fine to drop the escalation line entirely and close straight from the pain consequence.
Always end with a confirmation — casual is fine. “That about right?”, “Sound about right?”, or a simple “Yeah?” all do the same job as a more formal “is that a fair summary” and read less like a script. This is not just a courtesy — it is a deliberate agreement. When the client says yes, they have confirmed the problem is real, the impact is real, and the cost is real. From here, everything moves forward on solid ground.
Only use what the client told you. Do not add new information, exaggerate, or assume. If you get something wrong and they correct you, adjust and re-summarise. Getting corrected is fine — it shows you are engaging honestly, not running a script.
The Script
THE RULE Keep this short. Do not explain anything yet. This line simply signals that you are shifting from the problem to the solution.
Why This Stage Matters
The call has spent time focused entirely on the problem — what is wrong, how long it has been wrong, and what it is costing. That focus was intentional. But now the client has confirmed the problem, and continuing to sit in it would feel repetitive.
This one line acts as a gear change. It signals that something different is coming without giving anything away yet. It creates a moment of forward momentum that makes the client lean in slightly. That lean is what you want going into Section 5.
Do not over-explain here. One clean line is all you need. Renamed from “Post-Label Question” to “The Bridge” since the line is a statement, not a question — the name was misleading, the function wasn't.
The Script
THE RULE Always use the client's exact words from Section 2. The script below is a guide only — do not list generic benefits. Only speak to what they actually told you.
Why This Stage Matters
Up until now the entire call has been about the problem. This is the moment you shift to the future — what life looks like once the problem is solved.
People do not buy services. They buy outcomes. A business owner does not want a recruitment process — they want their team to stop being stretched, they want to stop turning away work, they want to feel in control again. Your job here is to help them see that future clearly enough that they feel it.
This is called selling the vacation because when someone books a holiday, they are not buying flights and a hotel room — they are buying the feeling of being on the beach. You are doing the same thing. You are not selling recruitment. You are selling the feeling of having the right people in place.
The reason this section must be personalised is simple. If you list benefits the client did not mention, it feels like a script. The moment they sense a script, they stop feeling and start evaluating. Those are two very different mental states — and only one of them closes.
Coaching Note
Before you think about technique, get clear on what you are trying to make the prospect feel.
They have just confirmed everything that is wrong. Your job now is to help them feel — even briefly — what life looks like when it is fixed. Not explained. Not sold. Felt. That is the only goal of this section.
The section now opens with differentiation, not the dream outcome. “So what makes us different than everything you've already tried? We open up a whole new country of talent…” is asked as an open loop — you pose the question but don't fully answer it yet. That unresolved curiosity carries into the next line, rather than the section starting with a recited answer that can feel like a performance.
“You've already tried, right?” at the end of that line is rhetorical — you are not waiting for a response. Keep moving regardless of what they do or don't say. This is different from the genuine pauses later in the section, and reps need to hear both types named so they don't treat every pause the same way.
The dream-outcome question is now asked live, not recited from Section 2. “When we solve the staff issue, what would actually change for you?” gets them to re-live their own answer in the moment, rather than hearing a prepared line handed back to them — which is what was making this section feel scripted and salesy even when the words themselves were accurate. Reflect back whatever they actually say. Don't supply a generic outcome if their answer is thin — the personalisation rule from Section 2 still applies here.
The pause after their answer is a genuine one, not the rhetorical kind. Give real space here — this is a natural point for them to keep talking if they want to, and rushing past it undoes the moment.
“When we fix those things, your business stops leaving money on the table.” This line closes the emotional moment with a logical anchor. The dream outcome lands in the gut — this line lands in the head. Together they cover both types of buyer. Say it short and clean, then pause again before moving on.
“We currently have [trade] ready to go” resolves the open loop from the opening line — it answers “what makes us different” and delivers the mechanism behind the outcome they just described, in the same breath.
“They want to join a company long term. They want to be looked after, paid on time, and just show up and do a hard day's work and go home.” This grounds the abstract “different mindset” claim in something concrete and relatable — a business owner can picture that kind of worker, whereas “different mindset” alone is just an assertion.
“How does that sound to you?” replaces the old self-persuasion close. This is a genuine question, not rhetorical — wait for a real answer. It gives the client a real chance to react and talk before you move into logistics, rather than the section ending on you handing them a line to agree with.
The Script
THE RULE Keep the process simple and focused on what the client experiences. Do not over-explain what happens behind the scenes. Immediately after the process, remove risk by introducing the guarantee.
Why This Stage Matters
Many business owners have been burned by recruiters before. They have paid fees, been sent unsuitable candidates, or been left without support when a hire did not work out. That history creates a quiet hesitation — even if they are excited about what you just said.
This stage has two jobs. First, make the process feel simple. The client only needs to understand their part in it — CVs arrive, they choose, the person starts. That is it. The simpler it sounds, the easier the decision feels.
Second, remove the risk before they raise it. When you bring up the guarantee unprompted, it signals confidence. It tells the client you have already thought about the hard question and solved it. Waiting for them to ask would let doubt build. You get ahead of it.
The final line — asking “right?” after the guarantee — is important. It turns the guarantee from a statement into a question the client has to answer, and they say yes every time. That small agreement makes the price conversation in Section 7 easier, because they've just confirmed out loud that fit becomes obvious fast — long before the four-month mark.
The Script
“So that's how it works — easy and straightforward.” (pause half a beat — let them take it in, then go straight into the next line)
This is a confirmation, not a cold ask — most prospects already indicated yes, no, or open to it when they filled out the ad form before the call, so you're closing the loop rather than introducing something new. It also works as a small commitment right before you reveal price, which makes the price conversation land easier. “Okay, cool, no worries” works as the response whatever they say — yes, no, or open to it. Accommodation isn't always relevant (a FIFO or mining candidate may not need it at all), so a “no” here is not a blocker. Keep it brief and move straight into price — do not let it stall the momentum you've built.
Common Objection: “What happens if the candidate leaves after 4 months?”
“Great question — some of our best clients asked that before working with us.”
“No one can guarantee someone won't change their mind.”
“What we can control is who we put in front of you — and we sit down with them properly before they start and just before the four month mark to make sure they are committed long term.”
“And if they aren't, we replace them immediately.”
“But the bigger risk to your business isn't what happens after four months.”
“It's what this role is costing you every week it stays unfilled.”
“You mentioned earlier it's costing you about [$X] a week — so if this drags on another four months, that's roughly [$X × 16] gone and you're still in the same position.”
THE RULE Deliver the price clearly and confidently, then stop talking. Do not apologise for it, justify it excessively, or rush past it. If the client raises a price concern, redirect to the cost of the problem — not the value of the service.
Why This Stage Matters
By the time you reach this point, the client already understands the problem, the cost of leaving it unsolved, the outcome they want, and how the process works. The groundwork has been laid.
Your only job here is to present the investment clearly and let it land.
The reason so many salespeople struggle at this moment is because they feel the need to justify the price. They start over-explaining or listing reasons why it is worth it. This actually creates doubt — it signals that you are not fully confident in what you are charging. The client does not need to be convinced the service has value. You already did that in sections 5 and 6. They just need to hear the number delivered with confidence.
The payment structure matters too. Splitting into two payments reduces the perceived financial risk and makes the decision easier. Notice that the question you ask is “does that payment structure work for you?” — not “do you want to go ahead?” You are asking about the how, not the whether. That distinction is intentional. It moves the conversation forward without putting the client in a position where they feel sold to.
If the client pushes back on price, do not defend the $17K. Take them back to the number they gave you in Section 2. The goal is to help them see that the real cost is not your fee — it is the ongoing cost of doing nothing.
The Script
Coaching Note — Objection Isolation & Hard Ask. Up to this point you've only confirmed the payment mechanics, not their actual commitment. Ask the isolation question first — “is there anything stopping us from getting started today?” — while you're still live on the call, so any last hesitation surfaces now, when you can handle it, rather than later as a stall or a ghosted email. If they raise something, work through it before moving on. Only once they've said no does the final line come in. Note that “cool, so we're ready to get started then” is not really a question at this point — deliver it as a statement, almost rhetorically. They've just told you nothing is in the way, so this line is you confirming what they already said, not asking them to decide again. Asking a real question here — like “are you ready to get started?” — invites them to reconsider something they've already ruled out. Say it, pause, then move straight into Section 8.
Common Objection: “That's expensive / more than I expected.”
“I totally understand — you want to make sure this is the right investment.” (Pause)
“Let me ask you something — if we put price to the side for a second, do you think we can actually solve your staffing problem?” (Pause. If yes:)
“You mentioned earlier it's costing your business about [$X] a week not having this role filled.”
“So over five weeks, that's roughly [$X × 5] gone — and you're still dealing with the same problem.” (Pause)
“So the real risk isn't the $17K. It's doing nothing while the business keeps losing money every week.”
“Fair?”
THE RULE Present the next step and stop talking. Do not turn this into a big sales moment. Silence after the close is powerful — do not fill it.
Why This Stage Matters
Most salespeople make the close feel like a big dramatic moment. They build up to it, ask a grand question, and put pressure on the client to make a decision. That approach creates resistance.
What works better is making the next step feel like the obvious, natural thing to do — because by this point, it should be. The client understands the problem, agrees with the outcome they want, understands the process, and knows the investment. There is nothing left to decide except when to start.
So instead of asking “do you want to move forward?” — which puts the client in a position where they feel sold to — you simply state what happens next. Laying out exactly what's needed — a signed copy of the Terms of Business and a job description — makes the next step concrete instead of vague. The client knows precisely what “getting started” requires of them, with no ambiguity.
Then stop talking after you've laid it out. Many reps get uncomfortable with silence and start filling it, which reopens doubt the client had already moved past. Let them respond.
The final question — “when do you think I'd have that signed copy back?” — does a different job to the old silence. Instead of just waiting, you're asking the client to commit to a timeline out loud. They'll almost always give you a specific day — “I'll have it to you by Wednesday.” A day is something you can chase; a vague “yeah sounds good” is not. If they hesitate on the date, that's useful information before you hang up.
The Script
This closing line ends the call on certainty rather than trailing off after their answer. It reinforces the decision they just made and leaves no gap for doubt to creep in after you hang up — the same logic as the objection isolation before your confirming statement in Section 7.
Stage 3 walkthrough
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Submit the Airtable form with the correct TOB type the moment the client says yes -- this triggers the client's TOB and job description links automatically.
Use the link below to open the Airtable form and submit the client's Terms of Business.
New Company Record Entry — AirtableTo lock in the deal the moment the client says yes -- the salesperson fills in the Airtable form with the client's details, selects the correct Terms of Business type, and submits it.
As soon as the client gives a verbal yes on the call, the salesperson fills in the Airtable form with the client's details and selects the correct Terms of Business type, then submits it. Submitting the form automatically sends the client an email with two links: one to sign the Terms of Business, and one to submit the job description. Once the client completes both, Sales and Ops get an automated email confirming the TOB has been signed, and the recruitment team is notified of the new job opening so they can start sourcing.
For Salesperson:
What Happens Automatically Next:
How to submit the Airtable form for Stage 3.
File: Client TOB Form Submission.mp4
Defuse, align to the problem, future-pace the outcome, then reconnect price to the weekly cost of leaving the role unfilled.
Usable during any objection below — it is not tied to one specific section.
When to use it: the conversation has gone flat — you ask a future-pace question and get a non-answer like “I'm not sure, mate” or “I don't know if this is right for me”, or you can just feel they are not engaged as you work through an objection. Don't keep pushing the script forward when this happens — reset.
What to do with the answer: let them answer fully, then route based on what actually comes out — it might turn into the Price Objection, the 4-Month Objection, the Stall/Hesitation flow, or something you haven't scripted for at all. The point isn't to force them back into whichever objection you were mid-way through; it's to find out what's really going on and handle that.
Every objection below is built on the same five-step structure. Not every objection uses all five in the same order — see each module for why steps are added, skipped, or reordered.
Social proof — use instead of Step 8 if it fits the conversation better:
A few analogy reframes (tools/equipment, broken machine, understaffed crew) were tested and dropped — they felt like a stretch rather than a natural fit for how a tradie business owner actually thinks. Don't force an analogy that doesn't sit right.
The Align question (“does this fix your problem?”) does the real diagnostic work, instead of asking something like “what specifically feels high?” which assumes the objection might genuinely be about the number. The working theory here is that price objections are almost always a smokescreen for “I'm not sure this will work for me” — so Align tests belief, not the number.
“What happens if it doesn't work out?” -- future-pace the win first, then land the safety net and the replacement guarantee.
This isn't a live pushback — it's a downside-planning question. The prospect isn't expressing doubt, they're asking what happens if things go wrong. Asking “do you believe this will work?” at this point risks sounding like you're second-guessing something they haven't actually doubted. Align only earns its place when there's real belief to check — here there isn't yet a doubt to test.
Future-pacing comes before the safety net, not after. Leading with the safety net skips future-pacing and jumps straight to mechanics — future-pacing first means the whole answer lands as “here's how we protect the good outcome you just pictured”, rather than “here's what happens when things go wrong”.
Rather than repeating the Price Objection's generic reframe, this one pulls from information already gathered earlier in the call (how long the role has been open) to build a reframe specific to that prospect. This only works if that number has actually been established earlier in the call — don't invent a figure that wasn't actually given.
Defuse, then go straight into Align without backing off -- find out what they are really weighing up before you let the call end open-ended.
The old Best Case/Worst Case framing didn't map cleanly onto any of the five steps — it was a logic play without a real Defuse, Align, or Future-Pace underneath it. This version follows Hormozi's actual worked example for “I need to think about it”: Defuse, then straight into Align, without backing off.
The Defuse line stays content-free on purpose — “I need to think about it” could be about anything (fit, timing, trust), so it should not presume the stall is about money.
If a prospect clearly isn't hiding an objection and just needs real time, don't force a reframe. Let them think — but lock in a firm, specific follow-up time before ending the call rather than leaving it open-ended.
Surface what the partner's real concern actually is, then route into the Price or 4-Month flow that already handles it.
This objection doesn't have its own reframe — its whole job is to surface the real concern and then hand off into whichever flow already handles it (Price, 4-Month, or the general Isolate Tool). Building a third reframe from scratch would duplicate work the other two objections already do well.
An earlier draft had a “they'd do it anyway → close” branch off the opening question. That was cut because closing on “he wouldn't say no” is really just a guess about someone who isn't on the call — not a real commitment. Always route through to finding the actual concern first.
Score every recorded sales call across 10 sections to turn sales coaching into something measurable.
Every recorded sales call should be reviewed using this scorecard. This turns sales improvement into something measurable rather than subjective. Each section is scored out of 10 — total possible score: 100.
| Section | What to Assess | Strong Performance | Weak Performance |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1. Call Frame /10 | Did the salesperson clearly frame the call and lower resistance? | Calm tone, clear purpose, prospect agrees, no pressure | Rushed intro, jumping straight into pitching, confused prospect |
| 2. Problem Diagnosis /10 | Did the salesperson fully understand the client's staffing problem? | Clear discovery questions, let prospect speak, clarified details | Surface-level questions, interrupting, moving too quickly to pitch |
| 3. Problem Impact /10 | Did the salesperson explore the cost of the problem? | Asked about lost productivity, delays, team stress, helped articulate cost | Skipping this stage, client never acknowledges cost |
| 4. Outcome Selling /10 | Did the salesperson help the client imagine the result of solving the problem? | Focus on results not services, clear picture of success | Talking only about recruitment processes, too much technical detail |
| 5. Mechanism Explanation /10 | Did the salesperson clearly explain how the solution works? | Clear and simple explanation, prospect understands, no confusion | Overcomplicated explanation, too much industry jargon |
| 6. Risk Reversal /10 | Did the salesperson reduce the client's fear of making a decision? | Clearly explained replacement guarantee, addressed concerns | No mention of risk reduction |
| 7. Price Delivery /10 | Did the salesperson present the investment confidently? | Clear and confident delivery, calm tone, no hesitation | Apologising for price, talking excessively after stating price |
| 8. Objection Handling /10 | Did the salesperson handle objections effectively? | Acknowledged objection, related to previous clients, asked clarifying questions | Defensive responses, avoiding the objection, losing control |
| 9. Control of Conversation /10 | Did the salesperson guide the conversation effectively? | Smooth transitions, maintained structure, client remained engaged | Conversation becomes unfocused, prospect takes control |
| 10. Next Step /10 | Did the salesperson clearly advance the process? | Clear next action agreed, prospect understands what happens next | Ending call without a clear next step |
How Stand Up trains and scales a sales team using Alex Hormozi's principles -- proof, system, hiring, and the 9-level ladder.
Before hiring salespeople, the founder must prove the sales process personally. Salespeople cannot discover the process — they can only execute an already proven process. The founder must first determine who the ideal customer is, what problem they are trying to solve, what objections appear repeatedly, what messaging resonates most, what the offer must look like to convert, and what the closing structure should be.
Once the founder's sales approach works, convert it into a repeatable structure: call framework, question flow, problem diagnosis process, objection handling framework, offer presentation structure, and close process.
Every sales call follows the same structure, regardless of who is running it.
According to Hormozi, almost all objections fall into one of three categories. Each uses the same Acknowledge → Associate → Ask structure.
Daily training rhythm, weekly coaching cadence, the new-hire ramp gate, and the career ladder that keeps top performers.
| Field | Detail |
|---|---|
| Duration | 30 minutes daily (8:00–8:30am NZT) |
| When | Booked in everyone's calendar at 8:00–8:30am NZT (placeholder — may move to 8:30). Client calls run 11am–6pm, so it never clashes. No client call is ever booked over it. |
| Who attends | All sales team -- no exceptions |
| Only excuse to be late | A live close that's running over. Everyone else shows up on time. |
Session format: Les owns the team's results — if a rep isn't hitting KPI, the first question is what training they've had, not what's wrong with them. Every session runs the same way: Kudos (Les, 5 min — call out the behaviour you want more of; whatever gets shouted out first gets done), Shout-outs (peer to peer, 5 min — reps thank each other for help that worked on a real call), then Role-play (20 min — Les models it, runs it with one rep in front of the team until they get it right, then everyone pairs off). The role-play topic rotates through the week, so the whole call gets sharpened every week:
| Day | Focus |
|---|---|
| Monday | INTRO -- how you open the call and take control |
| Tuesday | DISCO -- discovery, uncovering pain and goals |
| Wednesday | PITCH -- presenting the solution |
| Thursday | CLOSE -- asking for the decision, handling objections |
| Friday | HOT TOPIC -- whatever the team is struggling with that week |
The trial is both the final proving ground and the start of onboarding — there's no separate onboarding process layered on top of it. No one talks to a client until they've passed the Script and Recaps milestones, and no one gets a valuable lead until they've earned it. (Full hiring-to-trial process: see 5.5.)
Pre-Client Ramp (no fixed length)
No client calls. The ramp lasts as long as it takes to pass Milestones 1 and 2 — pass early, get in front of a client early. Two weeks is the usual pace, not a minimum.
Game Footage Drill
Same idea both ways: the rep has to work out the client's pain before hearing how Les handled it.
Reps must pass each milestone before moving to the next, and must log the minimum practice before booking each test. Les runs every test — fail it and they don't move on.
| Milestone | What It Tests | Minimum Practice Before the Test |
|---|---|---|
| 1. Script memorisation | Can deliver the full script without notes, cold. Not passed within 2–3 days of starting → the trial ends. They've already had a full week with it before being hired. | Blackout method finished, plus the full script delivered out loud 20 times |
| 2. Recaps | Can take a prospect's stated pain and label it accurately into the right problem category. Tests listening and abstraction. | 20 game-footage recaps written and compared with Les's |
| 3. Close & objections | Can ask for the decision and handle real objections without breaking frame. | 30 logged objection role-plays |
These minimums are the floor, not the target. Around rep 40 the flow clicks; from 40 to 80 they're polishing.
| Stage | What Happens | Gate to Move On |
|---|---|---|
| First clients | Les picks leads off his calendar that he isn't worried about losing — his judgement call. The rep isn't told and runs every call as a real close. Every call is recorded and reviewed in the 1:1. | Pass Milestone 3 (Close & Objections) and hit KPI |
| Half calendar | Standard leads, half a day. | Hit KPI 5 days in a row |
| Full calendar | Ramped — normal lead flow. | Confirmed as a permanent hire at the end of the 4-week trial |
| Missed KPI | One remedial round focused on their specific breakdown, then back to half calendar. | Miss again → employment ends under the trial clause |
Trial KPI: [To be set — the daily number a rep has to hit at the First Clients and Half Calendar stages.]
How a client moves through the sales CRM -- from call booked to placed -- across paid ads, the CRM (TOB pipeline), main client, and re-engage client.
The sales CRM tracks every client from the moment they book a call through to being placed. There are four main areas a client can sit in: Client Paid Ads, the CRM (TOB pipeline), Main Client, and Re-engage Client.
| Status | What It Means |
|---|---|
| Call Booked | Client has booked a sales call through Calendly. |
| Sent 24 Hours Ago | Automated email goes out 24 hours before the call, asking what problem they're struggling with. Read their reply before the call -- it gives you a head start on how to sell to them. |
| Sent 3 Hours Ago | Automated email confirming they're still good for the booked time. |
| No Show | Client didn't show up. A no-show email goes out to rebook. If they don't rebook within 24 hours, call them yourself. No pickup after that -- move to Closed. |
| Moved to CRM | Call happened, went well, TOBs have been sent -- move the client's status to CRM. |
| Closed | Sales call didn't go well, or they don't want to proceed with TOBs. Always add comments explaining exactly why. |
| Status | What It Means |
|---|---|
| Sent | TOBs have been fully sent to the client. |
| Waiting | Only ever set by Les's approval -- e.g. a key client he wants outside the normal sequence, or the client has given a specific timeframe / is waiting on internal approval. Always add notes. |
| Follow-up 1 – 4 | Automated follow-up sequence. If the client replies or emails at any point, take them out of the follow-up sequence and update their status manually. |
| Signed | Client has signed the TOBs and submitted the job description -- automatically moves to Main Client. No action needed from you. |
| Moved to Main Client | Automatic once TOBs are signed and the job description is submitted. |
| Closed | Client came back saying they don't want to proceed. Always add the reasoning. |
| Status | What It Means |
|---|---|
| Search Candidates Follow-up 1 – 3 | Automated emails to the client letting them know we're still searching for candidates. |
| Follow-up 4 (Les Calls) | The final follow-up email includes a personal call from Les to let the client know we haven't found anyone yet but we're still on it. |
| Already Have Candidates | Candidates have already been put in front of the client. |
| Done | Candidate(s) placed with the client -- process complete. |
Clients Les wants to keep working with who aren't ready yet, or who we keep in the system to reconnect with later. Split into two categories -- Client Paid Ads and CRM -- since that's usually where most re-engage clients come from.
Common scenarios: TOBs were sent but the client declined, or TOBs weren't sent but Les left the door open. Always add notes explaining why the client is in re-engage.
Full CRM walkthrough recorded by Rachel Rai.
File: Sales CRM Recording.mp4
What to charge, by trade. Quote from this sheet -- no guessing.
Most of the time you walk into the call already knowing which model you're charging. When you don't, discovery tells you.
Step 1 — Pre-Call Research
Step 2 — Discovery Question (Closer Script)
If you don't know the rate, or it's a Model B role, ask this in discovery:
They'll give you a number. Run it through the Calculating tab in your head and you know your fee before you get to the offer.
Step 3 — Adjust on the Run
Conversations change. The client might be bigger than you thought, or say something like “we're regional and paying phenomenal money.” When that happens:
| Does the role need a trade qualification or trade licence? | Charge |
|---|---|
| No | Model B — 15% |
| Yes, and it’s on the list | As listed |
| Yes, and it’s NOT on the list | Check with Les before quoting |
| Model A — Flat Fee | Model B — Percentage | |
|---|---|---|
| Fee | $17,000 flat | 15% of gross annual package. Over $55/hr: $17,000 flat |
| Who | Licensed / qualified trades | Plant, civil, labour, low-skill roles, HR/HC/MR drivers |
| Calculation | None — fixed | Rate × 40 × 52, + 12% super, × 15% |
All fees: AUD, excluding GST.
| Trade | Fee |
|---|---|
| Carpenter | $17,000 |
| Electrician | $17,000 |
| Plumber | $17,000 |
| Refrigeration Mechanic | $17,000 |
| HVAC Technician | $17,000 |
| Boilermaker | $17,000 |
| Welder | $17,000 |
| Roofer | $17,000 |
| Rigger | $17,000 |
| Crane Operator | $17,000 |
| Diesel Mechanic | $17,000 |
| Truck Driver — MC licence | $17,000 |
| Role | Fee |
|---|---|
| Labourer | 15% model |
| Civil staff (general) | 15% model |
| Excavator Operator | 15% model |
| Dump Truck Operator | 15% model |
| Grader Operator | 15% model |
| Pipe Layer / Drain Layer | 15% model |
| Concreter | 15% model |
| Steel Fixer | 15% model |
| Landscaper | 15% model |
| Warehouse Operator | 15% model |
| Truck Driver — HR, HC or MR licence | 15% model |
| Step | Amount |
|---|---|
| $42 × 40 × 52 (annual base) | $87,360.00 |
| + 12% super (gross package) | $97,843.20 |
| 15% of that (placement fee) | $14,676.48 |
Based on 40-hour week, 52 weeks, 12% super, 15% fee.
| Hourly Rate | Annual Base | Gross Package | 15% Calc | Fee Charged |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| $30.00 | $62,400.00 | $69,888.00 | $10,483.20 | $10,483.20 |
| $32.50 | $67,600.00 | $75,712.00 | $11,356.80 | $11,356.80 |
| $35.00 | $72,800.00 | $81,536.00 | $12,230.40 | $12,230.40 |
| $37.50 | $78,000.00 | $87,360.00 | $13,104.00 | $13,104.00 |
| $40.00 | $83,200.00 | $93,184.00 | $13,977.60 | $13,977.60 |
| $42.50 | $88,400.00 | $99,008.00 | $14,851.20 | $14,851.20 |
| $45.00 | $93,600.00 | $104,832.00 | $15,724.80 | $15,724.80 |
| $47.50 | $98,800.00 | $110,656.00 | $16,598.40 | $16,598.40 |
| $50.00 | $104,000.00 | $116,480.00 | $17,472.00 | $17,472.00 |
| $52.50 | $109,200.00 | $122,304.00 | $18,345.60 | $18,345.60 |
| $55.00 | $114,400.00 | $128,128.00 | $19,219.20 | $19,219.20 |
| $55.01 | $114,420.80 | $128,151.30 | $19,222.69 | $17,000.00 (flat) |
| $57.50 | $119,600.00 | $133,952.00 | $20,092.80 | $17,000.00 (flat) |
| $60.00 | $124,800.00 | $139,776.00 | $20,966.40 | $17,000.00 (flat) |
| $62.50 | $130,000.00 | $145,600.00 | $21,840.00 | $17,000.00 (flat) |
| $65.00 | $135,200.00 | $151,424.00 | $22,713.60 | $17,000.00 (flat) |
Model A
Model B
Model B — Over $55/hr ($17,000 Flat)
Every role falls into one of two categories, based on a single question: does the role require a formal trade qualification (an apprenticeship or ticket)?
1. Qualified Trade → Flat $17,000. If the role requires a formal trade qualification, the fee is a flat $17,000 regardless of hourly rate. Examples: electricians, plumbers, boilermakers, welders, carpenters, refrigeration technicians, HVAC technicians.
2. Experience-Based / Operator Role → 15% Formula, capped at $17,000 (as supplied, cap point disputed -- see flag above). If the role does not require a trade qualification, the fee is 15% of annualised income (including super), capped at $17,000. Examples: general labourers, excavator operators, pipe layers, grader operators, foreman/supervisor roles.
Does the role require a formal trade qualification (apprenticeship/ticket)?
YES → Quote $17,000 flat. Hourly rate is irrelevant.
NO → Get the candidate's hourly rate before quoting anything.
Rate is $49/hour or more → Quote $17,000 (per this document -- compare against the $55 Rule elsewhere in this guide).
Rate is under $49/hour → use the formula or table below.
Client won't give a rate → default to quoting $17,000, but push for the real number first.
| Hourly rate client pays | Fee to quote |
|---|---|
| $30/hr | $10,483 |
| $35/hr | $12,230 |
| $40/hr | $13,978 |
| $45/hr | $15,725 |
| $49/hr and above | $17,000 (capped) |
Formula: Fee = Hourly rate × 40 hrs/week × 52 weeks × 1.12 (super) × 15%.
How to find, test, hire and ramp a Closer / Sales Rep — start to finish. The single source of truth for hiring and onboarding a salesperson.
STAND UP RECRUITMENT
Owner: Les Wikiriwhi | How to find, test, hire and ramp a Closer / Sales Rep — start to finish
This is the single source of truth for hiring and onboarding a salesperson at Stand Up Recruitment — from writing the ad through to a confirmed hire. Les runs every stage of this personally. Don't skip stages, and don't give a candidate the script or the objection sheet earlier than this document says to.
Contents
Before you write the ad, know who you're fishing for. This isn't "someone with sales experience" — CVs don't tell you what actually matters. What matters is temperament, and you can only test for it live.
What good looks like
CV-Screening Reference: Which Sales Backgrounds Actually Count
The through-line for all of this is "no hiding." A background where rejection happens to someone's face, in real time, with no script to retreat behind, is worth far more than a background where the customer walked up already interested. Rank by that principle, not by job title alone.
| Signal Strength | Backgrounds | Why |
|---|---|---|
| Tier 1 — Strongest | Door-to-door sales (any product) Pest control sales Solar sales In-home sales (alarm systems, Cutco-style) Direct field sales | Cold, in-person, no hiding. Rejection happens to their face, in real time, with no script to retreat behind. |
| Tier 2 — Strong | Car sales (lot sales, not internet leads) Retail commission sales (working a floor — furniture, mattresses, electronics) | Still in-person and commission-driven, but the customer usually walked in already somewhat interested. |
| Tier 3 — Weaker, still worth a look | Street fundraising | Good rejection tolerance, but usually scripted and low-stakes financially — doesn't test price-holding the same way. |
| Doesn't count | Trade show / expo booth sales | People walk up already curious. No cold approach, no real "no" to overcome — doesn't test the thing that actually matters here. |
Traits vs. Experience — the call we're making
Worth naming directly: the Sales Team Training Manual (Hormozi Method) says the opposite of what's above — "Hire for traits, not experience. Experience does not predict success," listing work ethic, coachability, competitiveness, emotional resilience and hunger for success as what actually matters. That's the pure Hormozi position, and it's a legitimate one.
The decision for this role: traits remain the primary filter, but a real-world experience floor is added on top of them — because the audience (construction business owners, cold, on the phone or in person) is less forgiving than a warmer B2C sale. This is deliberately framed as "proven experience in high-stakes adult conversations," not an age cut-off — an age-based bar creates legal risk (age discrimination) without actually testing the thing that matters. Someone young with real experience holding their own passes; someone older with none doesn't.
Where to actually find that person
Job boards alone tend to surface generic applicants. Worth looking sideways at people already in commission-only or high-churn sales roles who are underpaid relative to their skill — real estate agents in a slow patch, car salespeople, insurance/mortgage brokers. They already have the temperament and are often looking for a better commission structure. A direct LinkedIn message tends to work better than a passive ad for this group.
Disqualifiers
Post the role on all major job boards (Seek, TradeMe, LinkedIn). Keep the ad structured around commission-heavy, high-reward earning potential — low base, high commission — since that's the actual structure of the role, and it naturally filters toward people comfortable with performance-based pay.
Ad copy itself isn't locked yet — flag separately if a polished version needs to be written up.
Ring every applicant for a quick, informal call before inviting anyone in. This isn't a written check — you're judging fluency and energy live, by how the call actually goes. No script or company materials are shared at this point.
→ This alone tells you fluency and energy in the first 10 seconds. If it's rough or flat here, you already have your answer.
→ Confirms NZ-based. Disqualify if not.
→ Checks realistic availability. Set your own cutoff (e.g. 2–4 weeks) — treat this as a flag, not an instant no. A vague answer with no reason is the real red flag.
→ Not graded for depth — you're checking whether they have any real answer at all, versus just applying to jobs.
Close the call:
What this call is actually screening — pass/fail, not scored:
Anyone who fails any of these doesn't get invited in. This gate protects everyone's time, including the candidate's.
At this stage the only material they see is the Cold Call Script, handed over on the spot with a couple of minutes to read it. No Client Call Script, no objection sheet. You're testing how fast they pick something up and run it under pressure, not what they've memorised.
Part A — The Interview
Sit down (in person or on video) and get a real picture of what they've actually done, beyond what the phone screen could tell you:
Part B — Spring the Cold-Call Test
Partway through, shift without much warning:
Hand them the Cold Call Script, give them a couple of minutes to read it, then have them make a couple of real cold calls on the spot — e.g. to Australian prospects.
→ TESTING: A couple of minutes isn't enough to learn it, so this still shows you raw ability. Do they freeze, or find something to say when the call goes off the page? Do they recover after a bad response, or spiral? Are they actually listening to the person on the other end, or just reading? This is the single best raw signal you get before investing a week of their time and yours in the Client Call Script.
Decision: happy with what you saw → move to the reference check. Not there yet → end here — the only thing they've seen is the Cold Call Script, so nothing else needs to be walked back.
Straight after the interview, if you're happy: hand over the Client Call Script on the spot and set a date one week out for the Test Project — "go away and learn that." Don't wait on the reference check to do this; the two run in parallel, not one after the other.
The same day (or as soon as possible after), run the reference check independently. Call their most recent sales manager directly, not a HR reference line:
If anything comes back bad at any point during that week, call the candidate straight away — "Hey, look, we've decided to go with someone else" — rather than waiting for the Test Project. No point letting them spend the rest of the week learning a script for a role they're not getting.
Suggested Memorisation Method (for the candidate's week)
A 400-word script means they say it 400 times. By the end they don't think about the words — they just say them. This is what allows natural delivery, real listening, and confident tone.
One week later: a recorded Teams call, with Les or one of your staff playing the client. This is the main pass/fail decision point in the whole process — they now have to run the actual script live, under real pressure, for the first time.
Opening line (say this once, before you start)
Beat 1 — Vague Opener
→ TESTING: Do they dig (ask 'in what way', 'how long', 'what have you tried') or jump straight into pitching? Jumping straight to the pitch is a red flag — they'll skip discovery on real calls too.
Beat 2 — One More Vague Answer, Then Force the Cut
After 2–3 exchanges max, cut in yourself:
→ TESTING: Can they pivot into the pitch (Sell the Vacation) on a shorter runway than the script implies, and do they hold the pause after the outcome line instead of filling the silence?
Beat 3 — Cold Price Pushback (not in the script they were sent)
→ TESTING: This is the single highest-signal moment in the whole test. Do they hold the price and explain value, or immediately cave, discount, or over-justify?
Beat 4 — Risk and Stall, Stacked On Top
→ TESTING: Can they handle more than one objection in the same call without losing frame? This tells you whether Beat 3 was a fluke or a real skill.
Beat 5 — Neutral, Non-Committal Response, Then Go Quiet
→ TESTING: Do they sit and wait for permission, backpedal into re-justifying, or self-advance into the logical next step in their own words (Terms of Business, job description) without being asked? Self-advancing unprompted is the strongest signal in the whole test.
Beat 6 — End It, Give Feedback Out Loud, On the Spot
→ TESTING: How they take feedback — defensive, blank, or 'got it, noted.' A rough performance with a coachable reaction beats a smooth performance with a defensive one.
Score It
| What to Score | Look For |
|---|---|
| Discovery instinct | Did they dig before pitching, or pitch blind? |
| Pause discipline | Did they let silence sit after the outcome line, or rush to fill it? |
| Price nerve | Did they hold the price, or cave/discount/over-justify? |
| Self-advance | Did they move to next steps unprompted, or wait to be told? |
Solid on at least 3 of the 4 → move to a job offer. Weak on all four → no.
If the Test Project confirms them: extend the offer. It's paid, real employment, structured with a 4-week trial period from day one — not a separate unpaid or informal arrangement beforehand. Make sure the trial period is agreed to in writing before their first day; that's what makes it a valid trial period rather than just an early performance review. During the trial they're guaranteed 25 hours a week.
By this point you've tested raw ability (the cold-call test), background and character (interview + reference check), and script skill under pressure (Test Project). The trial is what tests everything else — how they actually perform once real leads and real weeks are involved.
This is both the final proving ground and the start of onboarding — there's no separate onboarding process layered on top of it. No one talks to a client until they've passed the Script and Recaps milestones, and no one gets a valuable lead until they've earned it.
Pre-Client Ramp (no fixed length)
No client calls. The ramp lasts as long as it takes to pass Milestones 1 and 2 — pass early, get in front of a client early. Two weeks is the usual pace, not a minimum.
Game Footage Drill
Same idea both ways: the rep has to work out the client's pain before hearing how Les handled it.
Three Milestones (script memorisation gets a final check here too — one week of self-directed learning plus a single Test Project call doesn't guarantee it's fully locked in)
Reps must pass each milestone before moving to the next, and must log the minimum practice before booking each test. Les runs every test — fail it and they don't move on.
| Milestone | What It Tests | Minimum Practice Before the Test |
|---|---|---|
| 1. Script memorisation | Can deliver the full script without notes, cold. Not passed within 2–3 days of starting → the trial ends. They've already had a full week with it before being hired. | Blackout method finished, plus the full script delivered out loud 20 times |
| 2. Recaps | Can take a prospect's stated pain and label it accurately into the right problem category. Tests listening and abstraction. | 20 game-footage recaps written and compared with Les's |
| 3. Close & objections | Can ask for the decision and handle real objections without breaking frame. | 30 logged objection role-plays |
These minimums are the floor, not the target. Around rep 40 the flow clicks; from 40 to 80 they're polishing.
From First Client to Full Calendar
| Stage | What Happens | Gate to Move On |
|---|---|---|
| First clients | Les picks leads off his calendar that he isn't worried about losing — his judgement call. The rep isn't told and runs every call as a real close. Every call is recorded and reviewed in the 1:1. | Pass Milestone 3 (Close & Objections) and hit KPI |
| Half calendar | Standard leads, half a day. | Hit KPI 5 days in a row |
| Full calendar | Ramped — normal lead flow. | Confirmed as a permanent hire at the end of the 4-week trial |
| Missed KPI | One remedial round focused on their specific breakdown, then back to half calendar. | Miss again → employment ends under the trial clause |
Trial KPI: [To be set — the daily number a rep has to hit at the First Clients and Half Calendar stages.]
If more than one candidate reaches this stage in the same period, this is the actual decider — real performance against real (low-stakes) leads over four weeks tells you more than any single staged call could.
Mirrors the Recruiter Career Path structure — a visible ladder with a reason to push for the next rung at every stage, not a flat commission that never changes. Built around close rate rather than a raw TOB count, since a raw count only means something relative to how many calls someone's being fed. Every close-rate tier is paired with a volume floor of 100 client calls over the same rolling 4 weeks, so a rep on 5 calls at 40% can't outrank one on 40 calls at 35%. A full calendar runs about 30 calls a week; the floor sits a little below that so one slow week, a public holiday or a few no-shows doesn't knock someone off track.
Junior Closer 1 → 2 is an early win based on skill, not luck: pass all three milestones in the first 30 days and you get a raise and a new title — something to tell people at home about. From Junior Closer 2 the ladder counts signed TOBs and close rate, running alongside the 4-week trial, not gated behind it. A strong performer could already be climbing before the trial ends.
| Tier | Pay | Commission per TOB | Perk | To Advance |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Junior Closer 1 | $26–29/hr | None | — | Pass all 3 milestones within the first 30 days |
| Junior Closer 2 | Base + $1/hr | None | — | First 2 signed TOBs |
| Intermediate Closer 1 | Base + $1/hr | $200/TOB | — | Sustain 20%+ close rate and 100+ client calls over a rolling 4 weeks |
| Intermediate Closer 2 | Base + $3/hr | $300/TOB | — | Sustain 30%+ close rate and 100+ client calls over a rolling 4 weeks |
| Senior Closer | Base + $5/hr | $400/TOB + Bonus Boost | No calls after 5pm | Sustain 40%+ close rate and 100+ client calls over a rolling 4 weeks. Qualifies for the Sales Manager shortlist |
Senior Closer puts a rep on the shortlist for Sales Manager when a seat opens — not the job itself. Nobody gets promoted just for reaching the top tier.
Why 40%, not 30%: with 30% as the top tier, a rep who reaches it has nowhere left to climb — the ladder stalls exactly where you want them to stay motivated. Adding a stretch tier above the 30% target keeps the incentive alive past the point most reps will actually reach.
Bonus Boost (Senior Closer only)
Even at the top tier, a rep needs something to chase week to week rather than coasting at 40%. Any week their close rate runs above the 40% baseline, the TOBs earned above that pace pay extra on top of the standard $400 — mirrors the recruiter ladder's "5th+ placement in a month" accelerator. Exact bonus amount is still open — pick a number once the base tiers below have run for a while and you can see real performance against them.
These numbers ($200 / $300 / $400, the 20% / 30% / 40% thresholds and the 100-call floor) are a starting structure, not fixed for good — revisit them once you have a few reps' worth of real data on what's actually achievable.
Training starts on Day 1 of the trial and never stops — it's what keeps the standard from slipping. Les owns the team's results: if a rep isn't hitting KPI, the first question is what training they've had, not what's wrong with them.
Daily Training Block (8:00–8:30am NZT, every day)
Every session runs the same way:
The role-play topic rotates through the week, so the whole call gets sharpened every week:
| Day | Focus |
|---|---|
| Monday | INTRO — how you open the call and take control |
| Tuesday | DISCO — discovery, uncovering pain and goals |
| Wednesday | PITCH — presenting the solution |
| Thursday | CLOSE — asking for the decision, handling objections |
| Friday | HOT TOPIC — whatever the team is struggling with that week |
Weekly One-on-One
Weekly Team Meeting
Same format as daily training (Kudos → Shout-outs → Role-play) but centred on game footage — real call recordings played in front of the whole team, focused on one thematic thing costing the team deals that week.
Use the Sales Call Scorecard (companion document) to review recorded calls objectively rather than on gut feel.
This playbook is the process. These are the tools referenced inside it — keep them up to date as the scripts evolve:
| Document | Used For |
|---|---|
| Client Call Script (Closer Script) | Handed over in Step 5; run live in the Test Project and every real call after |
| Objection Handling Script + Training Notes | Held back until after the Test Project; the Defuse–Align–Future-Pace–Isolate–Reframe framework |
| Cold Call Script | Handed over for the cold-call test in the interview (Step 4); also used for outbound prospecting |
| Instagram DM Sales Script | Inbound leads via social |
| Sales Call Scorecard | Ongoing call review and coaching once someone's through the trial |
| How to Know What to Charge Clients | Fee logic reps need to know before quoting on a call |
Live call recordings to be added: once uploaded, link them at the 🎥 markers in Sections 6 and 8 above, and build a running library here for future hires.
Every client email template from the pre-call reminder through the TOB pipeline, candidate search follow-ups, and capacity messaging.
The sooner these are back, the sooner your guys are on site.
You’re not going to hear from us until we have someone right. That’s not us going quiet — that’s us doing the work properly.
Most clients come to us because the last hire cost them more than just money. A bad tradie on the tools costs time, reputation, and team morale. That's exactly what we're here to prevent.
You've got a team behind you that knows this trade, knows this market, and won't send you someone just to be seen doing something. That's the difference.
We've got it from here.
Hormozi-style pattern-interrupt cold call for outbound prospecting -- separate from the Closer Script.
Hormozi-style objection system — quick triage before handing off to the full Section 3 scripts if needed.
Price: “Fair — and honestly, staying short-staffed is costing you way more than any recruiter invoice. How long would it take you to get ROI on one good sparkie? A month?”
Stall: “Totally. What would happen if they said no?” (Flush the real objection.)
Vehicle: “100%. Plenty of good businesses have been burned by recruiters. If I landed you the exact guy you've been chasing, would that solve the problem or is there something deeper behind the hesitation?”
The moment a new lead comes through: book the Teams call, don't sell -- only drop into the full script if they push to talk now.
Use this the moment a new lead comes through. The goal of this call is to book the Teams call, not to sell. Keep it moving, use the pauses, and only drop into the full Closer Script (2.2) if they refuse to book and agree to talk now instead.
[pause — let them talk as much or as little as they want]
[let them go]
[half-beat pause — see what they say]
If they try to push for right now (only if they try to skip straight to a live call instead of booking): “Look, I'm just about to jump into another call and I'm booked up for today.” Then offer three specific time slots.
If they ask about price or anything else before committing: “That's exactly what this meeting is about. Every business is different, so we need to understand exactly what you do and what you need first. Once we've got that, and we know that we can help, we'll give you the complete breakdown on how it works on our side.” Then straight back to: “Are you free today or tomorrow?”
If they're adamant they don't want to book a call: “No worries — have you got 10 minutes to go over it now?”
If yes → hand over into the Closer Script (2.2) — discovery, dream outcome, pitch, guarantee, pricing, two-item close. This call has just become the sales call.
If no → “All good — I'll get those CVs and some info through to you now.”